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Patricia Cobe and Bret Thorn

July 6, 2025

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Restaurant Business

Restaurant Business: Menu Talk Podcast

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Restaurant Business

On this week’s podcast, Pat Cobe, senior menu editor of Restaurant Business, and Bret Thorn, senior food & beverage editor of Nation’s Restaurant News and Restaurant Hospitality, discuss recent tasting adventures as the holidays approach. Bret also shared an interview with Chris and Megan Curren, who operate The Graceful Ordinary, a restaurant in St. Charles, Illinois, that opened at the tail-end of the pandemic and serves satisfying and slightly cheffed-up food from its wood-burning hearth.

Give a listen.